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Re: Oakland Raiders
« Reply #105 on: November 03, 2011, 11:53:48 pm »
Oakland Bengals-i
kakav si ti kralj jebote :D
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« Reply #106 on: November 07, 2011, 05:53:24 pm »
“We’re not a very intelligent football team right now,” Hue Jackson said.

Hvala, cao-zdravo.
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Re: Oakland Raiders
« Reply #107 on: November 07, 2011, 05:55:27 pm »
ubo si za Tebowa ,prorekao si ga  ;)

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« Reply #108 on: November 07, 2011, 06:10:45 pm »
To je bilo za ocekivati, ne toliko zbog Tebow-a, nego zbog Raiders-a.
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« Reply #109 on: November 11, 2011, 06:08:20 pm »
Ovako je vec bolje...mada je malo falilo da sve prokockaju u 2. poluvremenu opet. Mora to jos mnogo bolje i ozbiljnije ako zele u PO.
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« Reply #110 on: January 06, 2012, 01:36:33 pm »
Nakon razocaravajuce sezone, slede promene. Ako sad Raiders-i nisu uspeli da udju u PO, ko zna kada ce...



Reggie McKenzie has agreed to terms to become the Raiders' general manager, ESPN reported Thursday night.

First reported by ESPN's Adam Schefter, McKenzie also confirmed the hiring through text message through ESPNmilwaukee.com.

Raiders officials could not be reached for comment.

McKenzie, 48, has worked in the personnel department of the Green Bay Packers for the past 19 years. He was a 10th-round draft pick of the Los Angeles Raiders in 1985.

Whether McKenzie will take over immediately is unclear. He can begin his duties with the Raiders only if the Packers agree, since he is currently under contract with Green Bay.

He comes with the recommendation of two former Raiders' front office executives who also worked for Green Bay -- Ron Wolf and Ken Herock. Herock has been a presence at the Raiders facility and at games since the death of owner Al Davis on Oct. 8.

Former Green Bay executive Andrew Brandt, who works for ESPN as well as at the National Football Post, described McKenzie's attributes before word of his hiring by the Raiders:

``I worked with him for nine years and what you see is what you get, a deliberate and hard working personnel evaluator that has great instincts on players, that does the necessary work to evaluate them and has experience on b oth the college and pro side.

``He comes from a Packer philosophy of draft and develop, and is not afraid to play
young players at the expense of more established veterans.''

It is not known how much input head coach Hue Jackson had into the hiring of McKenzie, although former club exec Wolf recommended McKenzie to owner Mark Davis not long after the death of his father.

In his weekly Sirius NFL radio interview Tuesday, Jackson said he had no problem working with a general manager after operating with much of the organizational power following the death of Al Davis

"My whole thing is about winning and whatever it takes to win,'' Jackson said. "Do I want to make sure I have an idea and have some input on who I put on a team? Yes. But at the end of the day, if the chain of command starts with the G.M. when it comes to those decisions, I'm fine with that, too.''

The Raiders had no announcements regarding staff changes, although they have reportedly told defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan, linebackers coach Greg Biekert, cornerbacks coach Rod Woodson and safeties coach Kevin Ross they will not return.
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« Reply #111 on: January 10, 2012, 08:50:07 pm »
Hue Jackson has been fired as head coach of the Oakland Raiders, according to multiple reports.

The story was first reported by Adam Schefter and confirmed to Comcast SportsNet through Hue Jackson.

Comcast SportsNet's Henry Wofford talked with Jackson, who said he is shocked by what happened.

Jackson told Wofford that he was called into Reggie McKenzie's office and was told that the team no longer needs his services.

When Jackson asked why, McKenzie responded that he was starting from scratch and bringing in his own guys. Jackson also asked if he was being let go because of his coaching or his relationship with players. McKenzie would not provide details, but said it has nothing to do with his reportedly bad relationship with the players.

Said Jackson to Wofford: "Come on Henry, you know I did everything possible to keep my job. McKenzie said I was not in his plans for the future."

A press conference will be held in Alameda Tuesday at 2 p.m. to introduce McKenzie.

Read more: Report: Raiders fire Hue Jackson
Tune to SportsNet Central at 6, 10:30 and midnight on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area for more on this story

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Po mom misljenju, tri glavna razloga zasto je izgubio posao:

1) Situacija sa Campbell-om i Palmer-om. Previse dato za matorog QB-a, a nisi uspeo da udjes u PO. Dakle, dzaba. Pritom, Campbell-a svi zivi gotive i nije se dopalo igracima sto je tako brzo doveden Palmer.

2) Situacija sa McClain-om. E tu je izgubio poverenje gomile igraca (navodno), jer ga je uvrstio u tim protiv Miami-a, iako je bio uhapsen (i jos se kezio pred kamerama, k'o budala) te nedelje, a Hue je bezbroj puta rekao da svako u timu odgovara za svoje postupke na terenu i van njega.

3) Gomila krajnje cudnih izjava tokom sezone koje su kulminirale na kraju sa "popizdeo sam na svoj tim, nismo usli u PO, igraci moraju da shvate da su odgovorni". Iako tu ima istine (ovo za igrace), to se ne kaze nikada pred kamerama. "Vlast" mu je udarila u glavu, bacio je gomilu pikova ni za sta, nije se skoncentrisao u potpunosti na svoje duznosti kao HC i tako su se i desavali problemi sa "clock management"-om, tupavim TO, itd, itd...

Ipak, na pocetku sezone su ljudi u najboljem slucaju mislili da ce OAK imati skor 7-9 (najcesce prognoze), a sa timom koji je izgubio startnog RB, QB, TE, prva tri WR, i pola svojih DBs uspeo je da dogura do 8-8. Da li se moglo vise kako je sezona odmicala? Jeste. Porazi protiv BUF, DET i DEN su besmisleni i Hue je kriv za jos jednu stvar koju nije uradio: otpustanje DC Bresnahan-a odmah posle poraza od BUF. Pre sezone se znalo da ce odbrana da duva, taj poraz je i te kako to pokazao, a nista se nije promenilo i u daljem toku sezone.

Oh, da - umalo da zaboravim: tu je i taj divan rekord po broju kazni i jardi izgubljenih zbog istih  :1:

Ovaj tim nema katastrofalan roster, ali cinjenica je da se par rupa mora popuniti. I da se dovedu krsteni treneri.

Sve to na stranu, ako bi Hue ostao u klubu kao OC, to bi bilo sjajno. Od DHB-a je napravio WR-a, ubo je par dobrih pikova u napadu i taj deo tima je sve bolji u poslednje dve sezone.
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Re: Oakland Raiders
« Reply #112 on: January 10, 2012, 10:05:00 pm »
Ne znam, meni deluje da su i Cable i Jackson sasvim dobro vodili OAK.Izgleda da je nesto drugo problem,ipak... ;)
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« Reply #113 on: January 10, 2012, 10:17:26 pm »
Izgleda da sam ja kriv :D
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« Reply #114 on: January 10, 2012, 11:05:03 pm »
Izgleda da ce neki iz tundre u toplije krajeve....
 

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« Reply #115 on: January 18, 2012, 12:37:03 pm »


stiže... :A :thumbsup:

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« Reply #116 on: January 18, 2012, 06:36:00 pm »
TALK TO ALL THE COACHES!!!

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« Reply #117 on: January 18, 2012, 09:17:51 pm »
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« Reply #118 on: January 24, 2012, 11:49:03 am »
"Bears offensive coordinator Mike Tice will not interview for the Raiders’ head-coaching position because Oakland has moved forward with the second phase of its interview process.

Last week the Raiders had asked to permission to interview Tice. But Oakland reportedly has opted to focus on a second interview with Broncos defensive coordinator Dennis Allen."

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« Reply #119 on: January 25, 2012, 11:23:53 am »
@AdamSchefter
Now official: Oakland Raiders are hiring former Broncos defensive coordinator Dennis Allen as head coach. Deal done.

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« Reply #120 on: February 06, 2012, 11:59:06 pm »
HC - Dennis Allen (bivsi DC Broncos-a)
OC - Greg Knapp (bivsi OC Raiders-a i nedavno QB coach Texans-a)
DC - Jason Tarver (bivsi DC Stanford-a)
STC - Steve Hoffman (bivsi STC Chiefs-a)

Angazovani jos neki treneri, dosta mesta je jos upraznjeno, ali to ce sada brze ici kada je nukleus trenera tu.

O angazovanim trenerima ne znam sta da mislim. Na papiru ne deluju nista posebno. Videcemo kako ce ispasti.

Toliko se pricalo o tome, a na kraju nijedan trener iz Packers-a nije angazovan :)
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« Reply #121 on: February 09, 2012, 08:36:11 pm »
HC - Dennis Allen (bivsi DC Broncos-a)
OC - Greg Knapp (bivsi OC Raiders-a i nedavno QB coach Texans-a)
DC - Jason Tarver (bivsi DC Stanford-a)
STC - Steve Hoffman (bivsi STC Chiefs-a)

Angazovani jos neki treneri, dosta mesta je jos upraznjeno, ali to ce sada brze ici kada je nukleus trenera tu.

O angazovanim trenerima ne znam sta da mislim. Na papiru ne deluju nista posebno. Videcemo kako ce ispasti.

Toliko se pricalo o tome, a na kraju nijedan trener iz Packers-a nije angazovan :)
Jbga mislim da su tražili dosta para verovatno.Da se naplati prsten dok još može...
 

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« Reply #122 on: February 09, 2012, 08:45:20 pm »
Ili nisu spremni za mesto HC/DC...a novinari izmislili pricu ;)
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« Reply #123 on: February 09, 2012, 08:52:07 pm »
Ili nisu spremni za mesto HC/DC...a novinari izmislili pricu ;)
Pa i to...Odma su povezali kad je McK. došao najlakše je bilo spekulisati sa tim...
 

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« Reply #124 on: February 09, 2012, 09:01:59 pm »
Kad se pominjao Philbin i Miami u istom kontekstu skoro, receno je da postoji nepisano pravilo da se svim trenerima pomaze da odu stepenik vise  pod uslovom da im taj stepenik nisu vec ponudili Packersi, a ako odu, da ne uzimaju Packers personnel.

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« Reply #125 on: February 09, 2012, 09:34:15 pm »
Kad se pominjao Philbin i Miami u istom kontekstu skoro, receno je da postoji nepisano pravilo da se svim trenerima pomaze da odu stepenik vise  pod uslovom da im taj stepenik nisu vec ponudili Packersi, a ako odu, da ne uzimaju Packers personnel.
da to je kao "džentlmenski sporazum".Takođe valjda je prošle godine MM stavio "veto" na intervju nekog od asistenata jer mu nije ponuđena VIŠA pozicija od ona za koju već ima ugovor u GB
 

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« Reply #126 on: February 10, 2012, 12:15:43 am »
Ne postoji nikakav "džentlmenski sporazum", to je regulisano NFL pravilima. Ekipa može zabraniti drugoj ekipi da intervjuiše njihovog pomoćnog trenera koji je pod ugovorom osim ako je za poziciju head coacha.

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« Reply #127 on: February 10, 2012, 12:55:56 am »
Da vidimo ko sledeci leti posle Routt-a :)

Igraci sa "najgorim" ugovorima po tim u ovom trenutku:

TE Kevin Boss: due $2 million

RG Cooper Carlisle: due $3 million

LB Aaron Curry: due $5.76 million

FS Hiram Eugene: due $2.25 million

DT John Henderson: due $4 million

WR Darrius Heyward-Bey: entering fourth year of five-year, $38.25-million deal with $23.5 million guaranteed

FS Michael Huff: due $16 million over next three years

CB Chris Johnson: due $3.5 million

DT Tommy Kelly: due $6 million

P Shane Lechler: due $3.8 million

MLB Rolando McClain: entering third year of five-year, $40-million deal with $23 million guaranteed

RB Darren McFadden: due $5.65 million

QB Carson Palmer: due $12.5 million, with $5 million guaranteed

CB Stanford Routt: due $5 million, plus another $5 million "signing bonus"

DT Richard Seymour: due $7.5 million, plus another $7.5 million roster bonus

LB Kamerion Wimbley: entering second year of five-year, $48 million contract, with $29 million guaranteed.
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« Reply #128 on: February 11, 2012, 11:51:25 am »
Ne postoji nikakav "džentlmenski sporazum", to je regulisano NFL pravilima. Ekipa može zabraniti drugoj ekipi da intervjuiše njihovog pomoćnog trenera koji je pod ugovorom osim ako je za poziciju head coacha.
Pod ovim se mislilo na bilo kakvo "pecanje" ...Ovo što je zabranjeno to je zabranjeno...
 

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« Reply #129 on: March 19, 2012, 11:25:12 pm »
Da ne spamam FA temu.


Gresis :) Davis nikad nije bio u rebuild fazonu. Svake sezone je radio sve sto je mogao/hteo da dodje do titule. Samo sto je u poslednjih xy godina to podrazumevalo uglavnom cudne odluke.
Istina, Al je uvijek ciljao najviše. Ali je to sve izgledalo kao rebuild jer nisu u nijednom trenutku zapravo imali ekipu koja bi mogla ispuniti Alova očekivanja.


Pryor bi mogao biti odličan QB ako se razvije pod starim liscem Palmerom  :)  Iako ima dosta neobičan stil igre.


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« Reply #130 on: March 19, 2012, 11:27:32 pm »
Da ne spamam FA temu.

Istina, Al je uvijek ciljao najviše. Ali je to sve izgledalo kao rebuild jer nisu u nijednom trenutku zapravo imali ekipu koja bi mogla ispuniti Alova očekivanja.


Pryor bi mogao biti odličan QB ako se razvije pod starim liscem Palmerom  :)  Iako ima dosta neobičan stil igre.

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« Reply #131 on: March 19, 2012, 11:30:10 pm »
Moram volit Palmera, ipak je osvojio Heismana u USC-u  :y


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« Reply #132 on: March 19, 2012, 11:51:22 pm »
Ovde smo odavno zakljucili dve stvari: Tebow je FB, Pryor je TE. Kraj price :)
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« Reply #133 on: March 25, 2012, 04:07:22 pm »
Nakon dve nedelje FA perioda, situacija je sledeca:

Igraci sa "najgorim" ugovorima po tim u ovom trenutku:

TE Kevin Boss: due $2 million - otpusten (KC)
RG Cooper Carlisle: due $3 million - otpusten pa ponovo potpisan za minimalac
LB Aaron Curry: due $5.76 million - restrukturirao ugovor
FS Hiram Eugene: due $2.25 million - otpusten
DT John Henderson: due $4 million - otpusten

WR Darrius Heyward-Bey: entering fourth year of five-year, $38.25-million deal with $23.5 million guaranteed
FS Michael Huff: due $16 million over next three years - restrukturirao ugovor
CB Chris Johnson: due $3.5 million - otpusten
DT Tommy Kelly: due $6 million
P Shane Lechler: due $3.8 million
MLB Rolando McClain: entering third year of five-year, $40-million deal with $23 million guaranteed
RB Darren McFadden: due $5.65 million
QB Carson Palmer: due $12.5 million, with $5 million guaranteed - restrukturirao ugovor
CB Stanford Routt: due $5 million, plus another $5 million "signing bonus" - otpusten (KC)
DT Richard Seymour: due $7.5 million, plus another $7.5 million roster bonus - restrukturirao ugovor
LB Kamerion Wimbley: entering second year of five-year, $48 million contract, with $29 million guaranteed. - otpusten (TEN)

Dakle, ostalo je jos 5 igraca koji imaju masne ugovore ove sezone: DHB, McClain, Lechler, DMC i Kelly. Svi su starteri, ali ne bas vrhunski igraci (DMC zbog povreda), tako da ukoliko bude potrebe lako ce restrukturirati ugovor.

Trenutno na cap utice i Franchise tag koji je stavljen na Branch-a, pa novim ugovorom i tu mogu da ustede dosta novca.

SUS, zavisno od trzista i potreba tima, mozda se dovede jos koji 2nd tier FA, ali jasno je da McKenzie zeli vec ove godine da se ratosilja bacenih para i da sledece rastereti budzet tima (kada ce imati i vecu draft klasu).

Ja sam za sada zadovoljan ucinjenim. Ono cime nisam zadovoljan, jeste sto su se ostali timovi u AFCW lepo pojacali  :ninja:
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« Reply #134 on: March 26, 2012, 10:36:50 pm »
Raiders awarded 3 compensatory picks in April's Draft, 3rd round (95th overall), 4th round (129th overall), 5th round (168th overall).

Nije lose, nije lose. Tako nesto se i ocekivalo, ali sada je i zvanicno. Da vidim sta ce da urade sa ovim pikovima, i da li ce pokusati da se domognu 2. ili 1. runde ove godine  :hm:
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« Reply #135 on: March 26, 2012, 11:02:58 pm »
Raiders awarded 3 compensatory picks in April's Draft, 3rd round (95th overall), 4th round (129th overall), 5th round (168th overall).

Nije lose, nije lose. Tako nesto se i ocekivalo, ali sada je i zvanicno. Da vidim sta ce da urade sa ovim pikovima, i da li ce pokusati da se domognu 2. ili 1. runde ove godine  :hm:

Pa da izgube i pikove sledece godine :P I zapamtite, ovi nagradjeni pikovi se ne mogu trejdovati. S obzirom da dolazi iz GB pre ocekuj neki trade down nego trade up.

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« Reply #136 on: March 26, 2012, 11:06:48 pm »
Ima par igraca koji su podobni za trade kako bi se domogli 1. i 2. runde. Rekao bih, ipak, da su minimalne sanse da se to desi i slazem se sa tobom: pre ce se desiti to da odrade trade-down i nagomilaju par pikova u 7. rundi, npr.

I znam da se comp. pikovi ne mogu trejdovati ;)
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« Reply #137 on: March 26, 2012, 11:17:54 pm »
Ima par igraca koji su podobni za trade kako bi se domogli 1. i 2. runde. Rekao bih, ipak, da su minimalne sanse da se to desi i slazem se sa tobom: pre ce se desiti to da odrade trade-down i nagomilaju par pikova u 7. rundi, npr.

I znam da se comp. pikovi ne mogu trejdovati ;)

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« Reply #138 on: March 27, 2012, 12:14:29 am »
S obzirom da dolazi iz GB pre ocekuj neki trade down nego trade up.
To ništa ne znači. John Schneider, GM Seahawksa, je čovek doveden iz Packersa pa se pokazao kao veoma agresivan i sušta suprotnost Thompsonu.

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« Reply #139 on: March 27, 2012, 10:38:16 am »
Pa nismo mi tradeup-ovali na draftu.  Verovatno necemo ni ove godine. Sto se tice FA to je vec druga prica.