Post by: Polux on January 17, 2015, 12:47:59 pm
Tesko je odrediti i postaviti kriterijume ko je u necemu najbolji. Ali BB je svojom dosadasnjom trenerskom karijerom, idejama, transakcijama .... svemu, potvrdio cinjenicu da je jedan od najboljih trenera ikada.
O njemu i njegovoj odbrani sam vec pisao
http://www.endzone.rs/extrapoint/index.php?topic=387.0 (http://www.endzone.rs/extrapoint/index.php?topic=387.0)
Lista njegovih genijalnih poteza je podugacka. Za pocetak i uvod da nabrojimo samo neke:
2000: Drafting Tom Brady with the 199th pick
2003: Giving up points — to get more in return – Flash back to November 2003. The Broncos are up 24-23 on the Patriots with 2 minutes 51 seconds left in the game. The Pats are in the perilous position of fourth-and-10 from their own 1-yard line … so he ordered his long snapper to air one over his punter’s head, giving the Broncos two points on the safety and possession … and Brady had over two minutes to come back and score the winning touchdown.
2008: Waging the information war — even with the injury report – Belichick listed Brady on the Patriots’ injury report for three years straight. During that time, Brady played 127 straight games.
2008: Showcasing talent, then trading it away — Matt Cassell stepped in as the starter that season, passing for over 3,500 yards, 21 touchdowns and 11 interceptions. Belichick promptly traded him away to the Chiefs for a second-round pick. Five years later, Belichick used another Brady backup as trade bait: Ryan Mallett was sent to the Houston Texans for a late-round draft choice.
2012: Embracing the no-huddle offense
2013: Coaching his players on how to deal with media — Take it from former Patriots lineman Ross Tucker: “I spent seven years in the NFL with five different teams, and I had never had a coach spend as much time talking about the media [as Belichick], and there was no close second.”
2013: Using the environment – Late in the 2013 season, the Patriots were hosting the Denver Broncos. The game went into overtime. The Pats won the toss. … Instead of taking the ball, Belichick took the wind. It worked.
2014: Not giving away any information — When reporters asked him about the team’s perceived weaknesses, he said some version of “We’re on to Cincinnati” five times in a row.
2015: Using defense-destroying formations — For three plays, Belichick’s offense set up with only four offensive linemen and a wide receiver lined up in the traditional left-tackle spot.
Da dodamo i sledece:
• Keeping a fourth quarterback on the roster because he showed potential, and turning him into Tom Brady.
• CallingMike Vrabel, who was languishing on the bench in Pittsburgh 0:01 into the start of free agency and signing him.
• Making a 100-catch Pro Bowler and Patriots Hall of Famer out of an eighth-round draft pick named Troy Brown.
• Going for it on the final drive of the Super Bowl against the Rams when the whole world said he should play of overtime.
• Trading Drew Bledsoe to a divisional rival and getting a first-round pick out of it.
• Cutting Lawyer Milloy five days before the season and going 34-4 over the next two years with two championships.
• Turning Stephen Neal, a wrestler who’d never played college football, into a 10-year NFL guard.
• Using Vrabel as a tight end who finished his career with 10 receptions and 10 touchdowns.
• Getting 1,600 yards out of Corey Dillon when the rest of the NFL treated him like he was radioactive.
• Regularly dismantling Peyton Manning.
• Making the deals for Randy Moss and Wes Welker that cost the Patriots almost nothing.
• Drafting Julian Edelman, a career QB, in the seventh round and making him into a 100-catch/1,000-yard receiver and the best punt returner of all time.
• At various times having Brown and Edelman practice at defensive back in case of emergency, only to see that emergency come up. (Brown ended up with three career interceptions.)
• Drafting Rob Gronkowski in the second round and inventing the two-tight end offense.
• Losing his best tight end, top two running backs, middle linebacker, most important defensive lineman and various other key players and taking his team to the 2013 AFC championship game.
• Getting Darrelle Revis from Tampa Bay not only without giving up anything to get him, but getting the toughest negotiator in pro football to take a pay cut.
Dakle, neosporno je da je BB genije.
Medjutim, zelim da istaknem novi potez BB (za one koji ga nisu videli) koji je opet izveo nesto o cemu ce se godinama pricati i sto potvrdjuje o kakvom se treneru radi.
U poslednjoj utakmici protiv Baltimora, u trecoj cetvrtini u tri vezane akcije, BB je izveo ofanzivnu fomaciju sa samo 4 OL. Sto je potpuno zbunilo, da se blago izrazim, inace poslovicno odlicnu odbarnu Baltimora.
O cemu se radi.
Kao sto se zna, prema NFL pravilima napad moze da ima 5 igraca na liniji skrimidza koji su "nepodesni" za pas (ineligible to catch a pass). Normalno, tih 5 igraca su ofanzivni linijasi i stoje zbijeni u liniji ispred QB.
NEP nije postavio takvu potpuno ocekivanu formaciju u te tri, gore pomenute, akcije.
Oni su koristili samo cetiri jasno vidljiva ofanzivna linijasa i jos jednog igraca koji se postavljao na drugom delu ofanzivne formacije, prikazujuci sebe kao 5-og nepodesnog hvataca.
U cemu je tu problem za odbranu Baltimora?
Problem je u sledecem: Igraci odbrane Baltimora jednostavno nisu znali koji igrac je taj nepodesni hvatac. Patriotsi su vesto sakrili koji igrac je podesan za pas a koji linijas je prerusen kao hvatac.
Nakon utakmice trener Ravensa John Harbaugh se izjasnio: " It was clearly deception. "
Dok je BB izjavio: "We had six eligible receivers on the field, but only five were eligible." Cao zdravo :D
U tom napadu su Patriote postigle TD i preokrenule situaciju u svoju korist.
Kako je to izgledalo na terenu.
1. Pre pocetka akcije, RB Shane Vereen je prikazo sebe kao nepodesnog hvataca sudijama. Sudije su to objavile preko "public-address system-a" par sekundi pre snepa. Vereen se potom postavio u slot, gde se obicno nalazi WR.
(http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/54b3db92ecad04d8739a4e91-1500-836/eligible-inelgibile.jpg)
2. U istoj akciji, igrac pozicioniran kao tradicionalni LT - Michael Hoomanawanui, je prakticno podesan hvatac. U toj situaciji, on je igrac koji moze da uhvati pas.
(http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/54b3db94eab8ea275fc9b87a-1200-706/patriots-receiver-formation.jpg)
3. Nakon snepa, Hoomanawanui se samo sjurio niz teren, i niko ga nije cuvao jer su ga doziveli kao ofenzivnog linijasa, t.j. onoga koji nema pravo da hvata pas i samim tim je bezopasan.
http://video.businessinsider.com/d0e388df-0922-47c7-89e3-8b4f724418c6.mp4 (http://video.businessinsider.com/d0e388df-0922-47c7-89e3-8b4f724418c6.mp4)
https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/I9w2P74N7ZiWtOUHkgu7ak2189k=/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/2922694/4ol.0.gif (https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/I9w2P74N7ZiWtOUHkgu7ak2189k=/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/2922694/4ol.0.gif)
4. Vereen, se za to vreme, nakon snepa, povukao nazad, jer je on nepodesan hvatac, i nije trcao u polje
(http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/54b3db926da811e447bb8a76-1200-706/patriots-eligible-ineligible.jpg)
NEP je odigrao ovu akciju tri puta, i svaki put osvojio first down.
Sta reci, osim - jebeno genijalno :worthy:
Post by: Reignman on January 17, 2015, 06:24:25 pm
#34 mora PRE huddlea da se prijavi da je ineligible i da sudija to kaze i odbrani. #34 je posle razbijanja huddlea sapnuo sudiji: "e ja sam ineligible, samo ticu"
Post by: Grandilof on January 17, 2015, 06:30:21 pm
Post by: velja on January 17, 2015, 08:32:38 pm
To su trikovi sitne cake.
Ono sto on ostavlja iza sebe je "nacin razmisljanja" ono cime je on uzor trenerima koji tek stasaju...
Post by: Marvin on January 18, 2015, 01:39:12 am
Vecina stvari stoji, ali pri kraju postaje ocigledno da je ovo pisao ipak pisao neko ko bas gotivi Patriotse. :)
• Drafting Julian Edelman, a career QB, in the seventh round and making him into a 100-catch/1,000-yard receiver and the best punt returner of all time.
• Drafting Rob Gronkowski in the second round and inventing the two-tight end offense.
• Losing his best tight end, top two running backs, middle linebacker, most important defensive lineman and various other key players and taking his team to the 2013 AFC championship game.
• Getting Darrelle Revis from Tampa Bay not only without giving up anything to get him, but getting the toughest negotiator in pro football to take a pay cut.
Post by: 3rd down and long on January 18, 2015, 09:29:10 am
Post by: Nikša on January 18, 2015, 10:04:34 am
sad ce da se javi njih dvadesetak da drobi o Spygateu :dumrem:Ne moramo. Znas i ti u kom grmu lezi zec.
Post by: Sundjer Bob Kockalone on January 18, 2015, 07:05:23 pm
Post by: starr on January 20, 2015, 12:04:47 am
Akciju koju si detaljno opisao genije je "pozajmio" od svog dobrog drugara Nicka Sabana koji je to prikazao sa Alabamom.
Relativno dugacak spisak je vise posledica staza, da si ti toliko dugo bio na njegovom mestu sigurno bi se nasao neko ko bi sastavio slican spisak i proglasavao te za genija.
Post by: Pablo on January 20, 2015, 12:23:28 am
Post by: Reignman on January 20, 2015, 08:42:18 am
Poluxe, silne stvari su nabrojane i skoro nijedna ne pokazuje ni g od genijalnosti. Da je genije pokupio bi Tomicu u prvoj rundi, ovako je ispao vise srecan nego pametan. Druge stvari koje su nabrojane nisu topla voda koju je on izmislio nego sve to moze da se nadje i kod drugih trenera.ma da li pokazuje ili ne nije toliko bitno :D
Akciju koju si detaljno opisao genije je "pozajmio" od svog dobrog drugara Nicka Sabana koji je to prikazao sa Alabamom.
Relativno dugacak spisak je vise posledica staza, da si ti toliko dugo bio na njegovom mestu sigurno bi se nasao neko ko bi sastavio slican spisak i proglasavao te za genija.
Bitno je da je Belicit eto od kada je NFLa kod nas konstantno u elitnom krugu i jos uvek traje. Da li je genije ili ne ne znam ali klasa jeste, cim toliko dugo opstaje.
Post by: starr on January 20, 2015, 11:52:34 am
Post by: Sundjer Bob Kockalone on January 20, 2015, 05:11:39 pm
Post by: starr on January 20, 2015, 06:06:54 pm
Post by: Reignman on January 20, 2015, 06:08:12 pm
nije kao da je izmislio 46 defense ili west coast offense pa da kazes da je genije, ovako je samo klasa :pablo:
Post by: sabotage on January 20, 2015, 08:16:33 pm
Da, nije genije nego je klasa :D. Jes da i drugi treneri imaju mogućnost da rade ono što i on, ali ne rade, al to nema veze. Reći da Bil nema ni G od genije je isto kao i reći za Hokinga, Ajnštajna, Fermija ili nekog četvrtog da nema g od genija. Oni su svi koristili matematička i fizička dostignuća naučnika koji su do njih došli kroz celokupnu ljudsku istoriju, malo dodali svojih ideja i napravili BUM u nauci.Jesi ti ovo uporedio Billa sa Anstajnom? uuuuuu teski su sektaski poremecaji.
Bill ima sistem, ima rezultate. Mislim da je to rezultat rada, upornosti, beskrupuloznosti i srece. Genijalnost je po meni iskazivanje posebne kreativnosti i originalnosti. To kod BB ne mozemo naci jer je prakticno svaki njegov koncept pozajmljen, kompajliran ili se u najmanju ruku ne moze nazvati izvorno njegovim.
PS Da nije nabasao na Brjedija bio bi trener ranga jednog Chan Gaileya.
Post by: Nikša on January 20, 2015, 08:23:18 pm
ablo:
Post by: marasin on January 20, 2015, 10:12:39 pm
Post by: Stana on January 21, 2015, 10:45:52 am
Post by: Sundjer Bob Kockalone on January 21, 2015, 08:16:27 pm
Jesi ti ovo uporedio Billa sa Anstajnom? uuuuuu teski su sektaski poremecaji.Nisam mislio u naučnom pogledu. Bil Beličik je genije u sportskom smislu, Norman Ajnštajn u naučnom.
Post by: seek boy on January 22, 2015, 10:13:20 pm
Post by: Sundjer Bob Kockalone on January 22, 2015, 10:31:37 pm
Post by: starr on February 02, 2015, 07:45:08 pm
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/02/02/analysis-notebook-super-bowl-xlix-that-play (https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/02/02/analysis-notebook-super-bowl-xlix-that-play)
Spremili su se za akciju koju su izveli par puta te sezone i navukli ih da je odigraju. :worthy:
Slično su uradili Seahawksi Packersima ali oni su iskoristili greške Packersa koje su se provlačile cele sezone. Oba trenera su pokazali da su creme de la creme ali BB je opet pomerio granice. :worthy: