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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #245 on: January 24, 2013, 11:19:46 pm »
Bilo bi lakše napisati šta ne treba. :P

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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #246 on: January 25, 2013, 12:51:56 am »
http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2013/1/23/3908714/jacksonville-jaguars-team-needs

Ukratko potrebe pred FA i draft  :lol: :lol: :napalm: :napalm:

1. Defensive End
2. Cornerback
3. Quarterback
4. Right Tackle
5. Outside Linebecker
6. Left Guard 
7. Center 
8. Running Back
9. Full Back
10. Tight End
Superbowl XLVIII: St. Louis Rams - Jacksonville Jaguars?? :svi:

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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #247 on: January 25, 2013, 12:22:13 pm »
Cenim da bi nam na ovom draftu trebalo 8-10 pikova prve runde, i 4-6 druge, i nekoliko trece....da se pokrpimo dok ne stignu FA.

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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #249 on: April 19, 2013, 02:23:13 pm »
Jacksonville Jaguars 2013

Team needs: QB, WR, OL, DL, LB, S, CB, RB, ...

Da! Ovo nije greska vec stvarna potreba ekipe, nisu za dzabe imali najgori skor u NFL. Mislim da ne bih mnogo promasio kad bih uradio copy/paste potreba sa zadnja 2 drafta , samo sto bih morao da dodam jos par rupa. Tuzno, ali istinito. Nov GM i HC su krenuli u cistku ekipe (ovde mora da se naglasi da iako moze po netu da se nadje da su Jagsi ~30 mil $ u plusu, zapravo stvarnost za proslu sezonu je da su jedva 10 mil u plusu sto je uzas za ekipu sa skorom 2-14), i jasno rekli da grade ekipu kroz draft, nece biti velikih FA potpisa, samo najneophodnije. HC Bredli je istakao nekolicinu igraca kao bazu oko koje ce graditi ekipu MoJo, Poz, Mercedes i Monro. Za sad ce Gabert dobiti jos jednu sansu da se dokaze ( 4. HC za 3 sezone), dok ce odbrana pretrpeti izmene, jer se prelazi na hibridni 3-4 sistem kakav je forsirao Sijetl sa nasim sadasnjim HC.

Napad:
QB - Pocevsi od nekonstantnosti (u najmanju ruku) i neefektivnosti Gaberta, i nesto boljeg Henea ovo je rupa, i tesko je krenuti dalje kad nemas QB.

WR - Hvatacke opcije su nesto bolje nego ranije jer smo zamalo imali WR sa 1000+ jardi u CS3, a tu je i proslogodisnji Top 10 pik Blekmon, i iza toga nema nikoga, nesrecni izbori WR u FA su se nastavili sa preplacenim (i naravno losim) Robinsonom, potpisali smo MoMass nekadasnjeg startera i nadu Klivlenda (verovatno promasaj). Iza TE Luisa nemas drugih opcija, neophodan je depth.

OL – Kao i do sad rupa na LG, RT, i C. Nije funkcionisalo, jednostavno nema talenta iza Monroa koji je izrastao u PB igraca, C Mistera je pregazilo vreme, LG Rakli je zavrsio na IR, a drugi LG Briton je FA, kao i RT Vimper i nece im biti ponudjeni novi ugovori. Trazi se RT bilo kroz FA (testirali smo neke tipa Clabo i Vinston), ili draft gde ce se traziti i LG. Realno velika rupa.

RB – MoJo je zavrsio sezonu na IR, a pre toga je strajkovao, i mozda smo ga prerano otpisali, jer smo mislili da Dzenings moze da nosi tim, sto se pokazalo kao velika greska jer ne samo da nije mogao, vec je sad i FA kome necemo ponuditi nov ugovor. Iza njih nema nikoga, ali bukvalno gomila FA i UDFA. Bitno je reci da smo pustili FB Grega Dzonsa (jednog od najboljih FB u NFL) u Hjuston.


Odbrana (vazna napomena je da menjamo sistem odbrane):

DL – Za mene iznenadjujuce su pustili NT Najtona, a potom i njegovu zamenu Mozlija (koji je zapravo dobar deo sezone bio starter). Ali procenili su verovatno da ne odgovaraju novom sistemu. AluAlu je i dalje tu, ali je pitanje jos koliko dugo, jer nije opravdao svoju draft poziciju (sad kada je konacno zdrav bio). DE je bio i ostao problem, jednostavno sekova nema. Doveli smo Babina pred kraj sezone, tu je pik 2.runde Branc, uz Minsija i Lejna ( 4 DE ukupno skupili 7.5 sekova). Potpisana su 2 DT Sen'Derrick Marks i Roy Miller, i verovatno ce biti jos potpisa “sistenskih” igraca. Ko je pratio naseg HC zna da igra hibridnu 3-4 odbranu, wide 9, sa rotacijama, i gde je kljucni pass rusher – LEO , koga mi trenutno nemamo, i koji ce biti potrazen na draftu (ostali DE sa rostera ce krpiti rupe).

LB – Kapiten odbrane Deril Smit je propustio celu sezonu, a sad je FA koga jos nisu potpisali, startni MLB Poz je po statistici nas najpretplaceniji igrac ( odnos plata-ucinak). Povredom Smita obe OLB pozicije su se „otvorile“ upali su UDFA Rasel Alen i Kajl Bosvort koji se nisu proslavili (Alen je solidna izmena , nikako starter). Tako da su oba OLB neophodna, jer trenutno na rosteru nemamo igraca startnog kalibra (imamo ukupno 6 LB na rosteru, od toga su 2 UDFA). Potpisan je Geno Hayes iz Bearsa i to je to. Od pocetka FA nisam cuo da smo „povezivani“ sa nekim od LB. Traze se igraci za Gasov sistem veliki i brzi, verovatno ce posle drafta biti jos doovodjenja FA.

CB - Otisla su oba startera Cox i Matis, kao i prva, druga i treca izmena ... potpisan Alan Ball iz Hjustona, racunajuci njega imamo 4 CB na rosteru. Poznato je da za Gasovu odbranu CB moraju da ispune neki fizicki kalup 6'1''+/190 (gde se posebo gleda raspon ruku), i da takve on preferira. Uz to da su dobri u cover 3 i pres.coverage-u.Ima nekoliko zanimljivih kandidata na draftu u kasnijim rundama. Ovo je trenutno pozicija sa najvecom potrebom, jer su potrebna 2 startera.

S
– Iako je meni Landri bio odlican, nova uprava mu se zahvalila na saradnji, ostao je Lowery, i onaj mucenik Prosinski. #457

Trebace nam jaci SS koji moze da igra blize LOS da zaustavlja trcanje i pokriva TE, i da ne bude rupa na pasu.



Ukratko to su neke od rupa, za sad se nesto i nisu trudili u FA, jer su jasno rekli da grade tim kroz draft, ali definitivno ce morati da se dovedu jos neki igraci jer je previse rupa za jedan draft.
Drugo ne znam filozofiju novog GMa, radio je u Coltsima i Falkonsima pored odlicnih ucitelja, ali sta ce on primeniti ne znam. Da li ce biti BAP, ili need, ili stekanje sto vise pikova kao BB?

Kako nama ne bi pomoglo da imamo i 5 pikova u prvoj rundi, a kamoli 1, moracemo da „ubadamo“ u nizim rundama.
Neke od opcija su:
(FS)Shamarko Thomas,Earl Wolff-While,
(SS)TJ McDonald, Cooper Taylor, Tony Jefferson, Cody Davis,
(CB) Blidi Wreh-Wilson, Robert Alford, Tharold Simon, Darius Slay, Demetrius McCray, Johnthan Banks, Logan Ryan, Avis Commack ,Jordan Poyer, Sanders Commings
(LB) Gerald Hodges, Arthur Brown, Sio Moore, Zavior Gooden,
(OL) Menelik Watson, Reid Fragel, Terron Armstead, (DE) Datone Jones , Micheal Buchanan
(DT) John Jenkins, Kawann Short, Kwame Geathers
(QB) Ryan Nassib, Tyler Wilson, EJ Manuel , Matt Scott , Zac Dysert, Mike Glennon
(WR) Ryan Swope, Marquise Goodwin, Josh Boyce



Kao i potencijalni UDFA kao : Luke Marguardt OT, Roger Gaines OT, Chris Barker OG, Matt Brown RB, Latavious Murray RB, Braden Wilson FB, Terrell Sinkfield WR , Tyrone Goard WR, Travis Long OLB, Abry Jones DT, Aaron Hester CB, Keith McGill CB, Terrell Sinkfield WR, Ryan Spadola WR, Dan Buckner WR, T.J Moe WR, Miguel Maysonet RB.....


http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2013/4/2/4173908/2013-nfl-draft-interests-jacksonville-jaguars

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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #250 on: April 19, 2013, 05:18:14 pm »
Ja sam pratio vaseg HC i neznam da igra hibridnu 3-4 sa wild 9.
Jeste da je Leo vazna pozicija, ali u stvari vaznija je 3 tech (posto, jelte igrate 4-3 under-over, zavisno od situacije, ali preferira over) posto je Leo speed rusher, ali osnovno je teska sredina koja fakticki cine 3 DT najcesce u poziciji za 4-3 under. Posle, zavisno od preostalih yardi se menja i postavka. Leo uzima na sebe OT i radi conteining dok u sustini 3 tech kolabira dzep i treba da radi sackove. Na zalost, mi to nismo imali jos uvek.

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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #251 on: April 19, 2013, 06:16:14 pm »
Razne opcije kruze sto se JAX tice, najcesce vidjam OT Jeockel/Fisher, QB Smith ili DE Jordan. Dion bi, po mom misljenju, bio i najlogicnije resenje, jer je HC takav da iz njega moze da izvuce dosta toga (jeste da je rano za njega, ali je i SEA rano pokupio Irving-a sa #15, tako da je sve moguce). Sa druge strane, mislim da ne mogu da pogrese sa nekim od top 2 OT i da bi to bilo sjajno za stabilizovanje OL, ukoliko ne uspeju da odrade trade down.
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« Reply #252 on: April 20, 2013, 01:34:09 am »
Ja sam pratio vaseg HC i neznam da igra hibridnu 3-4 sa wild 9.
Jeste da je Leo vazna pozicija, ali u stvari vaznija je 3 tech (posto, jelte igrate 4-3 under-over, zavisno od situacije, ali preferira over) posto je Leo speed rusher, ali osnovno je teska sredina koja fakticki cine 3 DT najcesce u poziciji za 4-3 under. Posle, zavisno od preostalih yardi se menja i postavka. Leo uzima na sebe OT i radi conteining dok u sustini 3 tech kolabira dzep i treba da radi sackove. Na zalost, mi to nismo imali jos uvek.

Lik sa Sijetlovog nekog foruma, i "nasi" su kao analizirali odbranu i to su bili neki zakljuchci.
prakticno 3 DT i LEO, lagani i brzi LB , in box SS, FS da "cuci" iz i ceka sta prodje , i "jaki i visoki" CB.

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« Reply #253 on: April 20, 2013, 02:51:16 am »
da, ali 3 DT je pojacani 4-3 under gde se na poziciji strong DE stavlja DT i tako otezava trcanje, ali samim tim i slabi pass rush na toj strani. Tako da je glavni pass rusher ustvari 3 tech.  Pete je to karakterisao kao 4-3 sa 3-4 igracima. A Leo je speed rusher, ali nije wild9 koliko ja znam. Mislim da on ide sa 5 ili 7 tech pozicije.
Evo jedna quota koja lepo objasnjava princip DL-a
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Our defensive linemen play primarily one-gap, with only Red Bryant two-gapping every down, while Mebane and Branch play one-gap in "base" but frequently switch up so either one (but mostly Mebane) plays two gaps, depending on down and distance.
Gde je Bryant 5 tech, Mebane 1 tech a Branch 3 tech.
Ne boj se, i kod nas su prvu godinu svi govorili kako je to 3-4 odbrana pa su na kraju prestali. A od ostaloga, nikad ne treba zaboraviti da je i Pete, ali i Gus, prosao Kiffinovu skolu. Pa visoki i jaki CB-ovi su pozeljni, ali u stvari tebi trebaju CB-ovi koji mogu da izdrze kontakt na LOS sa WR-ovima da bi im poremetili rutu, i posle da mogu da tekluju. LBovi nam nisu bili ni lagani ni brzi mada je to neka ideja, posto je ono sto se pokusava da se dobije pass rush samo sa DL. A SS u boxu je bila mogucnost, posto imamo FS-a koji moze da pokriva ogroman prostor. A i SS nam je bio los u cover-u tako da je ovako bolje radilo.

Dakle, ono sto ce biti osnovica je 4 man rush a ostali u cover-u. CB-ovi koji igraju bump and run.  Tampa 2. Ako budete imali odlicnog FS onda vise Cover-1, Cover -2. Ako CB-ovi budu odlicni onda 50% man, 50% zone cover. Ako DL bude dosta losa onda ce poceti cesce da blicuje, ovako ne. Ako Babin bude igrao LEO-poziciju, verovatno ce igrati sa wild9 jer njemu ne lezi neka bliza. Prve godine ce vam odbrane mnogo zavisiti od igraca sa kojima budete raspolagali. Druge godine vec ce poceti vise da se priblizavaju sistemu. Samo u slucaju nekog izrazitog talenta sistem ce se modifikovati oko njega.

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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #254 on: April 20, 2013, 02:12:56 pm »


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The Jacksonville Jaguars defensive scheme will remain the same, at least name wise as a 4-3, under new head coach Gus Bradley but will be quite a bit difference. Bradley ran a 4-3 defense with the Seattle Seahawks, but it wasn't a tradition 4-3 defense, it had some 3-4 elements mixed into it, which is what the Jaguars should be doing going forward.

We've talked about the LEO position and such in the past and broken down how Bradley's defense works, but now that the coaching staff has all but confirmed they will be running the same scheme as Bradley did in Seattle, we can look at how the current players fit into the scheme.




The LEO

The LEO position is one that's caused great confusion when discussing the current roster and the NFL Draft. Essentially, the LEO is an undersized and quick pass rusher who's only job is to get in the backfield and pressure the quarterback or disrupt the backfield. They play the "open-end" side of the defense, usually lining up at the 7-technique or the 9-technique.

LEO candidates on the Jaguars roster: Jason Babin, Andre Branch
LEO candidates with expiring contracts: John Chick
LEO candidates in the first round: Barkevious Mingo, Bjoern Werner, Dion Jordan

The 5-technique

The 5-technique defensive end lines up on the strong side and will typically be asked to two-gap and hold the point of attack against the run, but also provide some pass rush from that side. These are typically bigger and stronger defensive ends, and generally the style of end that traditional 3-4 teams look for.

5-tech candidates on the Jaguars roster: Austen Lane, Tyson Alualu
5-tech candidates with expiring contracts: --
5-tech candidates in the first/second round: Ezekial Ansah, Sheldon Richardson, Datone Jones, Star Lotulelei



The 1-technique


The 1-technique defensive tackle is traditionally a "space" eater. Their job is to two-gap and stuff the run more than anything else, so the running back has to spill the play to the outside or into the "bubble" created by how the the defensive line is setup, which will spill the back right into the should-be waiting weakside linebacker.

1-tech candidates on the Jaguars roster: C.J. Mosley, Jeris Pendleton
1-tech candidates with expiring contracts: Terrance Knighton
1-tech candidates in the first/second round: Star Lotulelei, Jessie Williams, Kawann Short

The 3-technique

The 3-technique defensive tackle is going to be more of a penetrating defensive tackle who can also hold up against the run. They will generally be asked to 1-gap and collapse the pocket from the inside, which should further help force the running plays to where the defense wants them to spill to.

3-tech candidates on the Jaguars roster: Tyson Alualu, D'Anthony Smith
3-tech candidates with expiring contracts: --
3-tech candidates in the first/second round: Sheldon Richardson, Shariff Floyd



http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2013/1/19/3890928/gus-bradley-defense-leo-position

http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2013/2/12/3980774/gus-bradley-jaguars-defensive-scheme-leo

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« Reply #255 on: April 20, 2013, 02:14:59 pm »
Much like Pete Carroll, Gus Bradley's first major coaching gig game as an understudy to Monte Kiffin. Kiffin's impact on modern defenses has been discussed ad nauseum, but his major gift to the football world was figuring out a way to combine two unrelated defensive fronts into a coherent defensive system that could be utilized with equal effectiveness against both two-back and one-back offenses.

So Carroll and Bradley are firmly rooted in the Kiffin 4-3 style coaching tree. Yet, the Seattle defense bares little resemblance to its Tampa Bay forerunners - notably in that mostly play single-high coverages (very little Cover 2) and base with three massive interior linemen. In very simple terms, the defense is less concerned with pure speed and penetration, and more concerned with building a wall from sideline-to-sideline.


"The Seahawks defense is certainly unusual in its front seven, no doubt about that one. Is it "a 4-3 defense with 3-4 elements" ... well ... What does that even mean? Descriptions like that tend to cause more confusion than they clarify anything. Does that mean our front seven is schematically close to a traditional 3-4? It really isn't. That we have the personnel to run a 3-4? For the most part, we really don't. The basic thinking here stems from the fact that we have three unusually big bodies on the front line, especially Red Bryant, a prototypical 3-4 end. But we play a fairly straight-up, although not very traditional, 4-3.

Right now, the Seahawks run a primarily one-gap-and-hold 4-3. Usually, when you hear "one-gap" 4-3, you should think of Kiffin/Tampa 2 or Phillips 3-4 style, attacking relentlessly through single gaps to overwhelm the opposing offensive line. But that's not the case for us. One-gap-and-hold sees linemen take on single gaps (and often two gaps), but not to penetrate, rather to outmuscle the offensive line and choke out any running attempts. Our defensive linemen play primarily one-gap, with only Red Bryant two-gapping every down, while Mebane and Branch play one-gap in "base" but frequently switch up so either one (but mostly Mebane) plays two gaps, depending on down and distance. This gap variation is just the start of it. The Seahawks very frequently switch personnel, lineups and gap assignments, even if they do primarily stay in a 4-3."

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« Reply #256 on: April 20, 2013, 02:17:56 pm »
Since the Leo plays from a looser alignment and operates in space, he doesn't need to have great size. Chris Clemons is listed at only 6'3 and 254 pounds. Bruce Irvin is an even smaller 6'3, 248. As the roster currently stands, the Jaguars have a trio of candidates in Andre Branch, John Chick, and Jason Babin. Of the three, Babin would likely have the inside track, as the Leo spot isn't much different in terms of responsibility from what Babin did as a "Wide-9" defensive end in the Eagles' defense. However, there's still much time left for players to be added to the roster and for roles to be decided.

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« Reply #257 on: April 20, 2013, 04:30:30 pm »

So Carroll and Bradley are firmly rooted in the Kiffin 4-3 style coaching tree. Yet, the Seattle defense bares little resemblance to its Tampa Bay forerunners - notably in that mostly play single-high coverages (very little Cover 2) and base with three massive interior linemen. In very simple terms, the defense is less concerned with pure speed and penetration, and more concerned with building a wall from sideline-to-sideline.[/b]


Posto sve ovo sto si naveo ja vidim kao slaganje sa onim sto sam ja rekao( citat je cak iz ovog teksta) da pojasnim par stvari. Nasi CB-ovi su veliki i brzi, tako da je njihov osnovni problem u stvari mali WR-ovi i sheme sa dosta menjanja smerova. FS je veoma brz igrac koji je ustanju da pokriva skoro celu sirinu terena tako da u vecini slucajeva on stize da pomogne. Osnovni princip je da se WR uspori na LOS sa bump&run tako da se dobije na vremenu da DL stigne do QB-a. Najvise problema smo imali kada smo radili cist zone cover bez jemovanja na LOS posto nasi agilni igraci su FS i MLB, ostali su samo veliki i zauzimaju prostor. Tako da ovo sto mi radimo jeste neka varijanta tampe, ali pokusano je da se brzina zameni masom i velicinom. Uostalom, skoro sve 4-3 obrane su presle sa 1-tech na 0-tech (NT) koji pazi na dva gap-a.
E sad... sva ova prica oko Red Bryanta je pomalo naduvana. Covek se nije pokazao dovoljno dobar za NT pa je prebacen da igra SDE. Desilo se da u toj shemi bolje zaustavlja trcanje i da je malo mobilniji nego NT na toj poziciji i odma je postao idealan DE u 3-4. Ono sto je uradjeno sa osnovnom postavkom je da je stavljen Mebane u sredinu koji je odlican NT iako je laksi od druge dvojice, dok su oko njega postavljena jos dva NT koji su malo losiji u run-stopu ali zbog pozicije nisu toliko na udaru tako da im je lakse da zaustavljaju trcanje. Na zalost, ni Branch ni Bryant se nisu pokazali nesto preterano dobro u pass rush-u, ali posto je Bryantova uloga drukcija on je ostao. Jos uvek jurimo dobrog 3-tech-a.
Od vasih igraca ni Babin i Branch ne odgovaraju LEO poziciji, tezi su i sporiji nego sto bi trebalo, ali mislim da ce da ih ostavi i da napadaju sa wide 9 zato sto im to odgovara.
Od ostatka DL ocekuj SDE od nekih 290-300 funti, NT od 320, i 3-tech od oko 300. Nesto sto bi bilo klasicniji izgled, blizi 3-4 tezinama. Ne verujem da ce ici u krajnost kao sto je bilo u seattlu. Uostalom, pominjalo se da je Bryant bio Quinn-ova ideja. Tako da ono sto ja mislim da je vama najpotrebnije je odlican 3-tech, solidan MLB i FS koji bi vam dao slobodu izvodjenja razlicitih shema. Ali posto je ovo prva sezona Gus-a kao samostalnog trenera bit ce zanimljivo videti kako ce u stvari izgledati njegova shema, posto je u prethodnim slucajevima ono bilo implementirano od strane More i Pete-a. Znam da Pete voli visoke igrace, sada da vidimo da li je i Gus za tu opciju.

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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #258 on: April 20, 2013, 05:02:15 pm »
Mislim da pricamo o istoj stvari, ali da se ne razumemo (za pocetak  :smile3: ).
Koliko sam razumeo , i kako su objasnjavali nece odmah preci na odbranu iz Sijetla zbog personala koji trenutno imamo.
Imace 3 faze, tj. 3 godine kao, u prvoj se kao oblikuje kako to treba da izgleda ali sa personalom koji imamo uz minimalne izmene/dopune  zato se i pominje ono "hibridna" jer je ustvari vise krpljene, a kako ce tim graditi preko drafta ocekujem da ce biti malo novih FA, ii da ce se raditi sa onim sto imamo.
LEO i wide9 porede jer ima nekih slicnosti, pa racunaju da tu Babin moze da odigra. Branc ide na poziciju "drugog" anti-LEA, jer je jaci i sporiji.
MLB ce biti Poz, a FS Lauri. SS nemamo na rosteru uopste.
Dzordan moze da igra i LB i mozda   LEO.  jer smo tanki na LB.
A CB nemamo nista na rosteru, nemam pojma sta tu moze da dodje.

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We've detailed in the past that Bradley seems to like "bigger" corners who can press, but as Bradley explained after practice yesterday, it's not just the height of the corner but the overall length.
"You can find it. Some guys play taller than their height, and it has some things to do with their arm length. It’s how comfortable... That truly is a mindset," Bradley told reporters
"It tightens up. When you play single safety middle like we do a lot of three-deep principles, when the corner is off there’s a lot of spacing issues," Bradley noted. "So we try to take away a lot of those spacing issues by playing press."


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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #259 on: April 20, 2013, 05:04:28 pm »
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In his first season as defensive coordinator Bradley had little talent at CB. Bradley had one capable corner in Marcus Trufant but after Trufant he had little experience. Bradley however made the decision to keep numerous UDFAs that year. The Seahawks ended having 6 cornerbacks on their final 53 man roster, half of those were rookies and two were UDFAs. The other rookie was only a 4th round pick as well. Over the coming seasons the Seahawks famously found Richard Sherman who was merely a 5th round pick and has since turned into one of the best corners in the league. Bradley has experience brining in late round picks and UDFAs to fill his roster for competition but also to develop them into possible starters. In fact in the three seasons that Bradley was in Seattle they never once drafted a CB higher than the 4th round. What was the result of this strategy? One of the best secondary's in the league.

Pomalo zabrinjavajuce, osloniti se na UDFA i rukije u divizijiji sa Saubom, Lakom..

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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #260 on: April 20, 2013, 05:30:00 pm »
A zaboravio sam najvazniju stvar  :palm: :palm: :palm:
DC Bob Babich ce verovatno "doneti" i nesto svoje u odbranu, 10 godina je bio u Cikagu valjda je naucio nesto. :smile3:


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“In Chicago over the years they played great defense,” Bradley said. “The amount of takeaways they get year in and year out and the amount of discipline ... they do what they do, and they do it well. That’s what we did up in Seattle. We try to do a few things and do them well. We have the same philosophy. I think his energy and that mindset, we can mesh it together and put something special together.”
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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #261 on: April 20, 2013, 06:40:34 pm »
Nije to neka razlika, i cikago je koristio varijantu tampa-2. Lovie je bio kod Dungy-ja.
Elem, Gus je 4 godine u seattlu, dosao je sa Jim Morom. Prve godine su tu bili Trufant, Josh Wilson (2 runda), Kelly Jennings (1 runda) i Ken Lucas (2 runda)
Wilson je trejdovan u Baltimor odakle je otisao u washington gde im je prosle sezone bio drugi CB. 5-9 je i to mu je jedina mana. Lucaj je bio samo jednu godinu.
Druge godine je draftovan Walter Thurmond koji je imao potencijal da bude i pik prve runde ali je pokidao sva tri ligamenta kolena. Oporavljao se i igrao slot sa idejom da bude starter sledece godine.
Trece godine draftovani su Sherman i Maxwell, a doveden je Browner iz kanade koji je postavljen kao 2 CB. Trejdovan je Jennings u cincinati. Trufant se povredjuje, odmah potom se Thurmond povredjuje i na scenu stupa Sherman.

U sustini, prve godine je to bila normalno popunjena pozicija. Druge je vec postalo malo nezgodno ali je tu bio i Roy Lewis koji je uvek bio neki nickle korner tako da je postojala neka sigurnost. Jennings je u sustini bio dobar CB ali je imao malo krace ruke i nije mogao da se izbori za loptu (a i malo losije je teklovao). Sto bi se reklo, odlicno je pokrivao coveka ali nije bio u stanju da brejkuje pas :P Vec trecu godinu mi pocinjemo sa Brownerom i Trufantom i Pete pocinje svoj comPete princip. Jeste da smo imali malo srece, ali ovo zvuci ko da smo tim sastavljali sa ulice dok u stvari imamo odlican skautin i trener poznaje igrace jos i pre koledza.



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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #262 on: April 20, 2013, 07:30:55 pm »
Ja se samo nadam da sad kad nema Gene Smitha , necu morati da gledam kako se draftuje P u 3.rundi, i no name D3 igrac, vec nesto proverenije.

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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #263 on: April 22, 2013, 08:16:14 pm »

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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #264 on: April 22, 2013, 10:06:38 pm »
Floyd je Gator. Ako su propustili Tebow-a, mozda nece njega.
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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #265 on: April 22, 2013, 10:15:51 pm »
Floyd ili Star sa no.2 ... ko je  bolji?

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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #266 on: April 22, 2013, 10:26:07 pm »
Richardson :D
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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #267 on: April 22, 2013, 10:30:20 pm »
Uskoro ce se sve znati... samo da nije neko "iznenadjenje".

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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #268 on: April 23, 2013, 11:19:50 am »
Ako neko zna da li Floyd vredi drugog picka znat ce Gus jer je Quinn bio DC u floridi. Tako da ako ga Jaguari ne pokupe znaci i da nije novi Sapp.

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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #269 on: April 23, 2013, 06:44:12 pm »
Vec sada se kaze da nije novi Sapp. Ono sto je Floyd-ova velika prednost (osim kvaliteta koje poseduje) jesu godine - tek ce da napuni 21.
Ali secam se jos jednog DT koji je nedavno hype-ovan i cija je "prednost" bila mladost: Amobi Okoye. Sa druge strane, postoji odredjeno misljenje za africke igrace koje govori o tome da oni nisu za to da postanu vrhunski igraci AF-a (cast izuzecima).

Sve je maglovito. Floyd, Star i Richardson su po kvalitetima jako blizu. Svako ima svoje prednosti i mane. Ono sto je zanimljivo, nijedan se ne smatra vrhunskim talentom (tipa Suh od pre par sezona), a i na poziciji DT je klasa izuzetno jaka ove godine.

Deluje da ce biti zanimljiv draft, bilo bi dobro da bude brdo trade-ova kao i prosle godine, iako nema toliko kvalitetnih igraca u top 15.

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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #270 on: April 23, 2013, 06:54:13 pm »

EXCLUSIVE: Live-shot of Jaguars war room


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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #271 on: April 23, 2013, 08:09:57 pm »
#Jaguars officially unveil their new @Nike uniforms, pic.twitter.com/wcYC7ao9qu, pic.twitter.com/Vu4rdm9Vjp , pic.twitter.com/NlV1m0xAxn
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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #272 on: April 23, 2013, 08:13:37 pm »
Dresovi super
Kacige ULTRA RUZNE

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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #273 on: April 23, 2013, 09:54:28 pm »
Lepo je biti inovativan, ali treba imati mere u svemu. Kacige su mi uzasne, gradijenti su generalno promasaja na sportskoj opremi.

A ni dreseovi mi se ne svidjaju, arena fudbal stil, moderan, nabacane linije bezveze, ne svidjaju mi se ni rukavi...a bili su OK posle poslednje promene, koje je bila relativno skoro.

Crni dresovi na onoj temperaturi...ne mozes da omanes sa tim izborom. :D

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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #274 on: April 23, 2013, 10:06:54 pm »
Novi logo i dresovi Dolphins-a...bzvz sto su menjali...
Vikings-i takodje imajo matirane kacige, cini mi se - i dobro deluje.
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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #275 on: April 23, 2013, 10:14:35 pm »
Totalni promasaj, uzasno su ruzne kacige, pa dresovi jos ispadaju dobri pored njih.

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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #276 on: April 23, 2013, 10:16:04 pm »
Dolphins-i su kompletni idioti. Jbt, ono je logo za sea world.

A za Vikings-e cekam da vidim, cini se da su resili da idu dobrim putem, keep it simple, old school fazon. Meni mat izgleda super na crnim kacigama, a sad cekam da vidim kako ce ispasti i ova verzija.

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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #277 on: April 23, 2013, 10:24:58 pm »
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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #278 on: April 23, 2013, 10:41:09 pm »
ceka se Asok Murti da da svoje misljenje

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Re: Jacksonville Jaguars
« Reply #279 on: April 23, 2013, 11:00:48 pm »
Sta cekas? Pojavile se jos pre sat vremena :D

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/23/report-new-dolphins-vikings-uniforms-leaked/
Nisam ni pogledao, ocekivao sam da ce sutra biti leak neki. :D Sta znam, sitno je i mutno, ali dobro izgleda, tj ne deluje ruzno bar. Videcu kad bude prezentacija lepo.